>> no, but that's not the question of this election. the question, without a doubt, we are not as well off as we were before george bush brought us the bush job losses, the bush recession, the bush deficits, the series of desert wars, charged for the first time to credit card, the national credit card. >> yeah, but. >> so, most of that answer was on message, talking about the fact that it's president bush's problem, but that first answer, no -- >> no, but doesn't help. >> yeah, but let's look at the real numbers, break it down and look at where we are now versus four years ago. let's start with job growth, the number one issue, of course, jobs. in january of 2009, remember, the economy was in horrible, horrible shape. it lost 818,000 jobs. this summer, july 2012, it was up 163,000, not great, but certainly, obviously, a lot better than bleeding jobs when the president took over. the unemployment rate when the president was inaugurated, 7.8%.